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November 02, 2009

Good without God: What do you think of humanism?

Greg M Epstein Harvard chaplain Are alternatives to religion, such as humanism, good replacements for organized religion?
    “Atheism alone, as the rejection of gods and the supernatural, cannot meet our deepest human needs for connection and inspiration,” writes Greg Epstein in his just-released book, "Good without God: What a Billion Nonreligious People Believe." (He's in the photo at right.)
    Epstein is the Humanist Chaplain at Harvard University. This chaplaincy “is dedicated to building, educating, and nurturing a diverse community of humanists, agnostics, atheists, and the non-religious at Harvard and beyond,” according to the organization’s web site.
    Defining humanism is a tall order. Here’s a short video clip of Epstein, providing his definition—one that he sums up in three words: Good without God.
    Part of his mission is to define what humanism is, not what it’s against. Humanists often debate the existence of God, when he says they should be focusing on the concrete alternatives to religious belief and practice.
    These practices often mirror religious practices. He promotes secular celebrations of the major moments in life, such as “baby naming ceremonies” that involve friends and family. Others choose “welcoming ceremonies” as another alternative.
    An alternative to choosing “godparents,” he says, should be a public ceremony for choosing and naming “guide parents.”
    Secular wedding ceremonies are another obvious alternative to a religious wedding. “After the vows are exchanged,” he writes, “I think it’s good to ask those in attendance to answer a question: do you, this couple’s family and friends, promise to encourage and support them in creating a strong and vital marriage? The answer is always ‘We do’.”
    What do you think of Epstein’s advice?
    Is humanism a reasonable alternative to traditional religious beliefs and practices?
    What secular practices do you engage in, if any?

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  • from Kent

    I have never unfriended anyone but I certainly am not opposed to the idea and wouldn't be offended if someone did so to me. I view Facebook as simply another method of human interaction similar to phone calls, texting, or actual face-to-face conversations. And so to me being "defriended" by someone would be no different than me deleting an old acquaintance's cell phone number who I haven't spoken to in years.

  • from Eoghan

    Your questions are:

    Have you been unfriended?
    How did it feel?
    Did it damage the relationship—or were you relieved?
    Have you unfriended anyone?
    Were there hurt feelings?

    This is exactly what I am talking about. So what if someone drops you from their Facebook account? It should really be de-Faced, shouldn't it?

    Apparently the current generation of pre-teens, teens, and "young adults" are emotionally damaged.

    Have you ever unfriended someone because he punched you in the face? Yep, did that, got punched in the face and he was no longer my friend. Apparently he was insecure about me talking to his girlfriend. Now THAT HURT. Dropping me from your cell phone? PEH!

    But the corollary to that story is this: never once did I consider retaliating with a knife or a gun. Besides, I gained more girlfriends by just taking the punch.

    Life must be pretty fragile in that generation that they get hurt by someone De-facing them (your "unfriending"). Yes, I am on a few social networks. I am cautious though, and only communicate with those of my choosing. Requests from people to be added to my "network" are pretty much ignored or dropped; we don't need to be instantly connected to someone to communicate with them.

    Am I hurt if someone unfriends me? Why did they friend me in the first place? More often than not it will be students following my blog, and they'll drop me like a hot potato as soon as semester ends. Thank Goodness.

    I'd have to say about 98% of my friends are not connected. Maybe they've unfriended me in their own way, who knows? I know I'll often get that call from someone I haven't seen in 25 years, or heard from for 10, but you know what? They still consider me friend and they'll find a way to contact me... maybe even by snail mail.

    Remember that saying "hold your friends close and your enemies closer"? Maybe unfriending is the kindest act of all: someone once considered me dangerous to them so they held me close. Now I am a true friend and they are unfriending me; I can be given the freedom our friends should have, to come back into our lives, when they choose.

    This may be the canard of the day; unfriend someone to make them your friend.

  • from Jim Leach

    Unfriending is the only chance that a social network won't collapse under association bloat. (I'm sure there's a trendier name.) A social network is an awful lot like a very small town and in small towns everyone knows everyone else's business. Unfriending is one way to help keep some parts of one's life relatively private. And if I learned I'd been unfriended for a hamburger, I'd laugh unroariously... then try to get my own burger!

  • from Leslie

    When I first joined facebook in high school, it was a competition to see who had the most friends. As we all grew up with this new online social networking technology, the rules and parameters have changed. Today, there are more social norms around who to friend, how to do it, and when it's appropriate.

    I think unfriending can be completely appropriate. That girl who you sat next to the first day of psych class, before she dropped it the next week. Unfriend her! The man you met on vacation 5 years ago, who you haven't spoken to since. Unfriend him! Why bog down your social network with lots of weak ties? It is easier to navigate, and now more socially acceptable, to keep things smaller and tighter. Nothing personal...

  • from David Thompson

    I USE these technologies but I'm sure not ruled by them! I use my computer to purchase and to sell on eBay. I'm on facebook. I use a landline with an answering machine and my cell phone is in my car and only I turn it on to call in an emergency. I do not Twitter, belong to chat groups or ever use my cell phone in public. How do I see the attention age? As disruptive and time wasting. Every driver I have ever seen on a cellphone is a distracted driver who goes slower then average, makes too wide turns (with one hand) and we know absolutely this contributes to auto accidents overall. Yes, some few people may need to talk while driving such as police or sales or medical personnel. The rest ABSOLUTELY Do Not need to be on the phone!!!.
    In the supermarket; yack, yack, yack, totally oblivious to others around them, blocking aisles, moving at half the speed they should and generally slow things down. I also do not want to hear you discuss the five brands of dish soap with your whomever. Do you realize how ignorant you sound? You can't pick a dish soap without consultation?
    I was in the beautiful petrified forest in Arizona with these giant trees millions of years old in gorgeous colors. A truly spiritual place. Except for Boozo from California standing on top of one of the trees shouting into his cell phone to the boys back at work at the top of his lungs, as if that made it easier to hear him. I almost was going to be really rude to him and tell him to leave and do that at his car in the parking lot, for Christ sake!! Or the woman in Hawaii at the national cemetery in the Punchbowl, where so many of our heroic dead are resting, loudly yaking with a family member in complete disregard for where she was or how inappropriate her behavior was. Stupid rude!
    No. This is NOT the Attention Age but the Inattention Age. People pay no attention to where they are, what they are doing at the time or who is around them. They sit at computers doing Facebook or Twitter on cell phones and have no real interaction with anyone. Social interaction is gone for them and they are isolated with only an illusion of being "with" others. These were TOOLS to improve life, not take it over! We have lost our way in the "new" believing wrongly that it is better. It is not allway true that new is improved!!

  • from Dolores Lear

    I love High Tech www. And all the Knowledge at our fingertips.

    I accept the Noah/Atlantis Flood was a Yearlong Flood, that damaged our Planet, broke the land into Continents, Tipped the axis, etc.

    Around North America are many Ice Caves. I accept the Ice Canopy, set up at Colonization in Genesis, fell by Central America, where Science says a Meteor from Space fell.

    http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/naked-science/3569/cave-crystal-giants-2

    All the Ice from our Ice Crystal Atmosphere Canopy, above the firmament in Genesis, was deposited, as the Tidal Waves deposited the debris, bones, etc., in layers on the New Topsoil.

    Genesis 7:11. KJV. In the six hundredth year of Noah's Life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened."

    2 months 17 days since the Planetary Flood began. This changed the Original land area that was joined Planetwide, before the Flood

    Genesis 8:14 Noah was in the Ark 1 year, 1 month, and 17 days, and then left the Ark, some proposed a boat as large as the Titanic Ocean Liner.
    Which makes sense when the Noah/Atlantis High Tech Science Society is accepted as a Planetary Society like we have today.

    In my research, it stated at the beginning of the USA, as Humans moved West, they used ice caves to keep their food fresh. Most of these have melted now.

    I could not find information about Ice Caves in other locations like there are in Central and North America. Most of the Ice was deposited At our Poles, as the waters receded.

    http://www.bing.com/search?q=Ice+Crystal+Caves&FORM=SOLTDF&pc=SOLTDF&src=IE-SearchBox

  • from Eoghan

    I am knee-deep in this technology. It is one of the core elements of our products, it is part of what my dissertation research is being performed on.

    A good book: "Digital Nation". Talks about the generation born around 1990-1991, they are digital natives. Others are digital immigrants (born before that era but not really a digital person) and the third is digital settler - I'm one of them - folks that built this stuff (I predate the Internet, I was on ArpaNet doing research in 1974.)

    It is kind of sad, really. I don't mind having the Dick Tracy wrist radio and television handy when I want it, but I also know about the off button.

    Are there more digital natives craving this type of instant attention because they were home schooled and learned few social skills? If kids REALLY dated, would this be the way things are? (Two adult children - of 7 - hang with their group a la "Friends"... no real dating, no real intimacy, no heartbreak, they just don't learn.) One nephew, HS age, was dumped and, of course, threatened suicide. I explained the fish in the sea theory to him and he got over it, but think about how many don't.

    Sure, they're in contact ALL the time, and, for what? I think the stupidest thing I've ever heard of is cell phones in combat. Places I went, things I did, we didn't want any distractions, we didn't want any outside interference, and we certainly didn't want our mommy's calling us.

    Well, there will always be drones and workers in our society. But very few queens in the hive. Its the old sled dog analogy: for everyone but the lead dog the view never changes.

    I like being lead dog. I like being alone to think things out. I like solving things by myself. I can play the game on the network, connect with old friends and lovers, and likewise, I can turn the machine off.

    I won't even begin to tell you how your private information is being stolen; if you have access to scholarly journals let me point you to subjects like "Leakage in Online Social Networks". That should turn your hair grey.

  • from Samantha Shelton

    I also find some of these social media outlets a great way to connect and re-connect with former classmates and colleagues from around the country and the world.

  • from Craig

    I saw Craig Newmark, founder of craigslist.com, speak the other day. He said "I think we are in the midst of one of the most profound cultural revolutions in history right now, and NONE of us has ANY idea where it is going to take us. I find that incredibly exciting, and feel like I have to play some part in it, or I'd be missing out."
    In terms of values, many of you may know that Craig has a VERY strong values-based agenda with the site - most simply summarized in The Golden Rule, and that it is a universal good to occasionally act as your Brother's Keeper. He made no religious allusions whatsoever - perhaps strictly consciously so - but he sees the need for unity between deep human values, business, a "fair" rate of return, and, yes, technology.
    Despite all the change, in other words, he clearly doesn't think this cultural revolution means our deepest values are in any danger of becoming obsolete - quite the opposite.

  • from Samantha Shelton

    I know that currently, for many artists; Facebook and other social media outlets are an important tool for relaying information regarding performances, master classes, guest artist residencies, etc... My colleagues and I regularly exchange information this way and it is often the first place I find out about local events.

  • from Ms Eusebia E Aquino-Hughes

    An education for David Thompson and the Americam Anglo-African American media from one who lives the truth in
    American each day; Facts on Latino Americans.
    1. Hispanic/Latino Americans are native of America we were here when the MayFlower came in 1620 with Anglo-African Americans.
    2. Latinos are not born in Mars so there is no way we can be"undocumented aliens".This there life on Mars???
    3. Latino Americans are the largest group without medical care.There is no way we are getting free health care.
    4.What we Latinos Americans want for X MAS is a "DAY WITHOUT BEING A RACIAL PROFILE GROUP in our own native America.
    5. We will be most "THANK FUL" to have a day without racism.

  • from David Thompson

    Let's be realistic here. The PRESS is largely responsible for our view of our world beyond our immediate neighborhood! Muslims are the "enemy of choice" in the press for years so all acts are emphasized to them. The fact that extremists have hijacked & blown up planes, hijacked cruise vessels, blown up hotels, etc. and taken thousands of non-combatant lives and are willing to destroy themselves in suicide attacks does rub most people of all religions as anti-life. The only other group so dedicated to suicide were the Japanese during WWII and that also was seen as self destructive. The problem for muslims is they keep silent about their extremists out of fear(?), miss guided loyalty(?), whatever. Muslims in America have little cause for complaint, they are not persecuted, rarely do they complain of actual attacks yet they are so vocal about being victims and never speak out against the extremists that cause them and everyone else problems. As to the Hispanics; I live in Michigan and an undocumented alien can come to this State and get a picture driver's license which is excellent identification all over the U.S. of A. They get medical care and a variety of services at no cost. As a citizen,I get irritated that they get a lot which is why them come to the U.S. to begin with. We are going to have crazy people that do crazy, anti-life stuff and we will all try and make sense of the non-sensical and the press (all media) will exploit that to gain attention to themselves. Get used to it.

  • from Sally Ward

    A brilliant idea, an inspiring example of what it looks and feels like to be living "in both worlds"!
    Thank you for the wake up call, we need many of them! It is my intention to sit with this in my heart so 'this way' can become 'the new way' of living.

  • from Carol

    My grandfather, Jack Millman, lived in Detroit near the old Tiger Stadium. Every Christmas he would give away baskets of fruits to the poor families around his house. This article reminds me of the gas station that my grandfather use to go to. The owner had several children and he would give each one of them a new pair of shoes for Xmas.

  • from Eoghan

    I don't know why we have to attempt to conduct American security in others' countries.

    The Billions spent on Afghanistan and Iraq could have gone far to support social security. It could have gone far to begin socialized medicine.

    I suggest that we bring ALL our troops home. Then, convert them to 9-5ers and let them work for TSA and ICE. Send the more senior ones over to our embassies all around the world and have them run the visa offices, not local foreign nationals. (Golly, we'd be saving money that way too.)

    THEN, when ANYONE wants a visa to come to the US, make the requirements standard but rigorous. Require full background checks, at the requestor's expense, as well as a full health exam, fingerprinting and psychological exam (that way people like the FH killer could serve overseas).

    Repeat the process when they arrive in the US. Examine ALL their documents fully. Conduct health exams, fingerprint them and issue them temporary alien visitor ID cards. Inject them with a GPS capable RFID device - or they get deported immediately.

    That should keep the troops busy, and at home. It would save us a lot of money and all our foreign friends will be mad at us... what the heck, they're mad now.

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